in a matter of just a year or so. that's what they had to do to continue being able to sell their debt. that, mr. chairman, is exactly what we don't want to do. this is not speculation, this is not something we have to think about. it's there for us to see, not just in spain, in greece, in cyprus new york japan in a different form. it's there in other parts of the world. when people, when you borrow so much money the people won't lend you any anymore, then you put in this austerity which causes these problems. unfortunately, that is what my friends on the other side of the aisle, their budgets will lead us to, more debts, more deficits, kind of a sugar high. they'll say, we're going to create, spend all this money, create these government jobs, for a while, and we'll feel good until the debt crisis comes an then all that goes away.